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| 26 Nov 2006 12:31 PM |
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Noose hosted a great chat. Here's the transcript:
flyinnoose Thanks for showing Up!
flyinnoose What's Up fella's
raptor22 Anyone here?
treytaylor howdy
raptor69j Hey
treytaylor is it just getting started here?
flyinnoose "Yes, just starting"
raptor22 Which one of you is the T-38 IP?
flyinnoose Let me introduce myself - I am a T-38 FAIP at Sheppard. Feel free to ask away
treytaylor "flyinnoose, were you ROTC or AFA?"
raptor22 Awesome... I'll be joining you down there in Jul 08
flyinnoose "Actually, I went to OTS, but a number of dudes I went through pilot training with were ROTC"
treytaylor is it anymore selective getting ENJJPT through OTS than the other routes?
flyinnoose
"Yes, there are limited slots through OTS. Usually 1 primary and 1
alternate. You have to put a package together and go through a board
and interview with a board of O-6's"
raptor22 Do you know when T-6's will be making their official appearance at Sheppard?
flyinnoose I believe they are going to show up in the spring of 08 and be fully integrated by the summer of 08.
treytaylor are yall the only ones left with the tweets?
flyinnoose I think that Vance still has a few. But we are going to be the last training base that is flying them
raptor22
I've wondered this for a long time... what is the probability that
Raptors will start showing in drops for new pilots in the coming couple
years?
treytaylor "i see alot of tweets come into Easterwood Field when I just hang around the airport there, im guessin those are yall"
flyinnoose
We got a brief from a Raptor guy who came here and broke! He said that
Raptor slots are not going to come down for quite some time to UPT
grads. They are soaking up mostly 15C guys and a few hotshot Viper
dudes. Currently it is about 80% 15C guys that are upgrading
flyinnoose Take a look at the tails of the jets. If they have a EN on the tail they are ours
raptor22 Is it difficult to get a 15C out of ENJJPT?
flyinnoose
"As far as the Raptor goes, it is such a complex system that UPT grads
probably will not do well. It is best to go to the 15C fly a tour and
try to get picked up"
flyinnoose 15C out of ENJJPT is a pretty good bet. Both of the guys in my class who asked for them got it.
treytaylor
Is getting a bomber or fighter slot out of ENJJPT like any other UPT
program (merit based) or do yall have more say in what you want to fly?
flyinnoose
"The majority of the jets that drop are Vipers. 1-2 A-10's, 1-2 15E's,
1-2 bombers, T-38 FAIP, T-37 FAIP and fill out with Vipers is a typical
drop"
raptor69j What are the typical qualifications of the OTS guys that get selected for ENJJPT?
flyinnoose
Getting selected for a Bomber or Fighter is a complex system of number
crunching and evaluation. Obviously if you are not good at formation
(bust a bunch of rides or checkrides) you will probably get a bomber.
But there is also an officer quality evaluation
flyinnoose
"OTS qualifications : Get a job at OTS that carries a weight of 4 -5.
Do well in academics, leadership activities and a good recommendation
from a flight commander"
raptor22 Interesting... is there any way to avoid getting FAIP?
flyinnoose Graduate in the bottom half of your class
raptor22 hmm
treytaylor are you lined up for anything after your tour as a FAIP?
flyinnoose Basically a FAIP tour guarantees your #1 choice
flyinnoose ....at ENJJPT
raptor22 does that hurt you much when it comes to stuff like Weapons School though?
flyinnoose
"Not sure the long term ramifications. However, that is a question
asked by a lot of dudes. There are FAIP's that go to Weapon's school.
From what we have been told it is still a possibility"
flyinnoose "As far as promotion goes - Lt Col, Col etc - It is great for your career"
treytaylor
how well does a college enviroment prepare you for the demands placed
on you during UPT? How much more difficult is ENJJPT compared to normal
UPT?
raptor22 "Understood... well, I have to get to a
meeting unfortunately. Gotta love the Academy. If you're still around
in Jul 08 I will probably see you at Sheppard. Thanks for your time!!"
treytaylor adios raptor
flyinnoose
"College did not prepare me well at all for UPT. Basically, you will
eat, sleep, drink and s%$t flying for 13 months. You have to be able
to learn all the information in a high stress environment and still
perform. I equate it to getting a PhD in a year"
flyinnoose
"ENJJPT is very competitive like the other bases, but everyone here is
a fighter pilot, so the SNAP thing is out the window. ENJJPT has more
checkrides as well"
treytaylor Do you think attending a
military academy or military organization (more involved than normal
ROTC) gives you any more of an advantage in that kind of enviroment?
flyinnoose "Later, thanks for coming"
flyinnoose "No, it is a matter of adapting to your environment"
treytaylor did you have any previous flying experience before ENJJPT?
flyinnoose "Yeah, I had about 50 hours of civilian time, but had not flown for almost 2 years prior to beginning UPT"
treytaylor
"how did that help you? Ive heard both sides or the argument. Some say
its benificial as long as you don't have a problem learning new ways to
fly, but others claim that it really doesn't do you much good."
flyinnoose
Military flying is very structured and disciplined. Each sortie has
specific requirements and standards to adhere to and achieve. The
civilian time did not help at all. The only thing it taught me was
that there were airports and planes, you had to talk to ATC and that's
about it. Air Force training is an eye opener. Come with your fangs
out ready to learn - - fast!
flyinnoose "The pattern is
different, procedures are different, there are a lot of rules to learn,
and the speed (even in the tweet) is something that took me for a loop
initially"
treytaylor what are you lined up to jump into after FAIP
flyinnoose "Here's the choices: F-16, A-10, B-2, F-15E, F-15C, and maybe by the end of my tour F-22"
flyinnoose raptor69j are you still with us
raptor69j "Yeah, I'm still here"
flyinnoose sweet
raptor69j
"Can you tell me a little more about the application process for ENJJPT
through OTS, like how to apply, when you get to apply, etc"
flyinnoose "No problem,"
treytaylor Will the training program have to be re-adjusted after yall take in the T-6s?
flyinnoose You begin the application process with about 3 weeks until OTS graduation
flyinnoose There is a memo/application that you need to fill out about yourself and why you think you would be a good candidate
flyinnoose You then interview in front of a board of Colonel's
flyinnoose They make the ultimate decision about it. I was informed through an email from another flight commander.
flyinnoose
"The results come out with about a week and a half to go, and by that
time you already have your orders to a different base."
flyinnoose They need to be amended and then you are on your way
raptor69j Is everyone who applies guaranteed and interview?
raptor69j an
flyinnoose
Trey: they are in the process of redesigning the ENJJPT syllabus to
accomodate the T-6. Word is there is going to be some more advance
flying that typically used to only be done in the 38
flyinnoose Everyone who applies is guaranteed an interview
raptor22 What do you think is the best way to do well at ENJJPT?
flyinnoose "Know your sh1t, be a good officer, and team player. The rest should fall in line"
flyinnoose
"There is a big emphasis on knowing the information. If you have
systems, procedures, standards etc down, you will have a better chance
of freeing up brain bytes while flying because you will know what is
going on"
raptor22 "would you recommend studying ahead
before showing up? ie. reading the Dash 1, memorizing boldface,
learning the local area, etc."
flyinnoose especially during standups
flyinnoose
"The first day I would recommend having the boldface, ops limits and
starting the jet down cold. Additionally, the local area procedural
knowledge and the wing standards are major emphasis items too. Then if
you have time hit the -1"
flyinnoose skypot welcome
skypot thanks!
flyinnoose quatro - welcome
raptor22 "I have a year of casual, so I'll have nothing but time"
flyinnoose
wow - I would think that you are going to get moved up once you get
here. But if you do have an extended casual - enjoy it because once
you start - fight's on
treytaylor does working with guys from across europe make it anymore difficult? how does it enhance the training experience?
flyinnoose
Initially I though the language barrier was going to be an issue.
However, I didn't know that these guys all have to be fluent in order
ot even come to the program. Also, all the IP's here from foreign
nations went through here, so english is not a problem
raptor22
"Definitely... I think I'm ready though, I've been waiting for it
all my life. So you think there's a decent chance of getting into an
earlier class date?"
flyinnoose "In fact it enhances the
experience, and you will make some really good friends that you will
bump into at engagements down the road"
flyinnoose "Usually guys are getting bumped up, but don't quote me on that"
raptor22 cool thanks
flyinnoose They are getting really efficient at not letting you sit around too ling
flyinnoose that's long
raptor69j "Thanks for your time flyinnoose, hope to see you there someday"
flyinnoose my pleasure - I should be here until 2010
treytaylor
"once you get your wings and get operational, does being an ENJJPT
graduate give you any advantages over a normal UPT graduate?"
flyinnoose "uhhhhh, mmmmmm, ahhhhhhhhh - not sure. I haven't got that far yet, but I would like to think so!"
flyinnoose
"I think the neat thing about ENJJPT is getting to train with a bunch
of NATO nations, the flying is a little more demanding and there are
some things that are not done in the regular UPT syllabus."
treytaylor
"lol, im still pretty early in the pipeline, so I don't really know
which route im going to take. My grades will probibly be decent, but
nothing stellar. Im trying to get my other scores sh1t hot to keep me
pretty competitve"
quatro If it hasn't been asked yet
(just say and I'll wait to read the log later...) -- what's the one (or
more) thing that students do in the -38 that piss you off the most as
an instructor.
treytaylor any route they give me im gonna take though
flyinnoose Sweet -how far along are you Trey
flyinnoose Not calling blind in formation
flyinnoose Oh wait - thinking that they are Sierra Hotel when they are not
quatro haha nice
flyinnoose eagle23 welcome
eagle23 "Howdy, Noose."
flyinnoose Sup Eagle
eagle23 How's the chat deal going?
eagle23 "N2M, just taking it easy for a bit."
eagle23 Yourself?
treytaylor
well, im just in my first year of ROTC, second year in college. I had
to go to a branch campus to get to College Station, where I wanted to
be, so im still another 4 years out. I got a 97 on my AFOQT pilot and a
94 on my nav. Im trying to get all the other shi1t looking good early
on to give me the best chances. My GPA is at a 3.0 and will hopefully
stay somewhere around there for the next few years.
flyinnoose SO far so good. Quite a few dudes in and out (so to speak)
raptor22 hehe
eagle23 "Haha, gotcha."
eagle23 "Where you out of, Trey?"
flyinnoose
Trey - your scores are sweet. Looks like you are on your way. BTW.
If you look up about 30000 feet tomorrow I will be flying over College
Station enroute to Houston!
treytaylor Texas A&M
eagle23 "Cool, cool."
flyinnoose 11:15am
eagle23 "Raptor, didn't we exchange a few messages on the forum before?"
raptor22 yea dude
eagle23 "Noose, did you do your 38C transition yet??"
eagle23 "Nice, nice. You going to ENJJPT?"
raptor22 "you got the early start date, i get to wait a year!"
flyinnoose I start in January
raptor22 haha
treytaylor
"lol, yeah man. I know yall come into Easterwood alot. Im kinda the
airport bum over there. It keeps me sane with the Corps of Cadets shi1t
that i do."
eagle23 "LOL. What date? Jul 08, right?"
raptor22 yep
eagle23 January? Will they be 100% transitioned there by then?
eagle23 "USAFA, right, Raptor?"
flyinnoose No I think we will be full up by April
raptor22 "yessir... just got finished with ""Commandant's Challenge"" very exciting."
raptor22 not
eagle23 "LOL, what's that?"
treytaylor
In what ways is the new 38C more capable than the old ones? Just better
avionics or are there some performace enhancements too?
eagle23 I'll be the Wing King here at my detachment next semester.
raptor22 like a big training event we do each semester... largely a waste of time in my opinion
eagle23 "Avionics and low-level performance, Trey."
eagle23 Nice. Did you go through AM-490?
raptor22 "yeah, i did it a couple years ago"
eagle23 "Was I correct with that, Noose?"
flyinnoose
"38C is a XC machine. However, the PMP modification is supposed to
improve performance, but elminate the supersonic capability"
eagle23 "Nice, I went through it 3 summers ago."
eagle23 XC?
flyinnoose Close Eagle
raptor22 hmm summer of 04? or 03?
flyinnoose "XC = Cross Country. GPS, INS are sweet"
eagle23 4.
eagle23 04*
raptor22 lol me too
eagle23 Nice.
treytaylor "38s won't be supersonic anymore? Damn, now im kinda disappointed"
eagle23 Plus the HUD add-on.
raptor22 "38C's should be able to go supersonic in a dive still, right?"
flyinnoose yeah - no more boom
eagle23
"As far as I head, they took the supersonic training out out of the
official training syllabus. At least at standard UPT."
flyinnoose in a dive yes\
eagle23 heard*
raptor22 "Eagle, I wonder if you were in my jump class... I did it in early July..."
flyinnoose Going supersonic is not much different than nornal flying. Just the flight controls are sluggish
flyinnoose Moose - welcome
Moose Driver all by yourself?
flyinnoose no there about 4 other dudes here
Moose Driver retract that....I just looked to the right...sorry...
eagle23 "Really, Rap?"
eagle23 I was there with ROTC. Last year they let ROTC do it. They let about 120 of us do it a year in 2 separate classes.
eagle23 "BRB, gents. Hey Rap, do you have AIM??"
raptor22 "yea... I hung out with Brett Hickman, Mash Vendt, Bryce Johnson, Shaun Lee... you know any of them?"
treytaylor noose: do you know how much OTS differs from ROTC field training?
raptor22 yea billythekid1621
flyinnoose Hey dudes - any more ENJJPT ?'s
raptor22 sorry didn't mean to sidetrack the conversation
flyinnoose If not I am pulling chocks
Moose Driver "I would have checked in earlier, but I had a PM flight...just landed about an hour ago"
raptor22 How is the town around there? is there anything fun to do in that part of texas?
Moose Driver hope you had a good showing for the live chat
Moose Driver fun in wichita falls is going to Dallas for the weekend...right noose?
flyinnoose
If you like chasing chicks with fo teef it is a blast. No - Dallas is
about 2 hours away. There is also a university in town that has some
talent
raptor22 hehe.. roger that
flyinnoose Like Moose said - fun in WF is Dallas!
raptor22 "well, goin there to fly not to date"
flyinnoose But - most AF bases are in BFE
raptor22 BFE?
Moose Driver I'm TDY to Charleston right now and there is plenty to do here.
Moose Driver Butt F#ck Egypt
flyinnoose Bum F$&k Egypt
flyinnoose Sweet the dirty south
raptor22 lol
flyinnoose There are 17's at Charleston right?
Moose Driver
"if noose needs to blast and if anyone has any heavy type aircraft, I
can stick around, but if not, I'm going to watch the giants"
Moose Driver yep (re: charleston question)
Moose Driver heavy type aircraft questions I meant..
skypot "thanks for hosting the chat, noose..."
flyinnoose I am ok to stay if the activity keeps up
flyinnoose my pleasure
raptor22 "hey noose, what would you say is the hardest part of T-38's?"
Moose Driver
"Charleston was the first base to get C-17s. They also have them at
mcchord (seattle/tacoma), McGuire AFB, NJ, Travis AFB, CA"
wheels_up "Yeah, whats the hardest part?"
treytaylor "hey all, im out. Gotta hit the books one more time before I go home tomorrow for thanksgiving"
flyinnoose
"initally it was the speed. Then you get used to that. The traffic
pattern initially has its challenges, and instrument flying from the
back seat under the hood is not fun"
treytaylor thanks for all the info 'noose. Ill take a peak up tomorrow around noon and see if I see any contrails.
raptor22 i already hate the hood from my 40 hours of Katana time... oh well it's the price you pay.
wheels_up "Yeah, its probablly almost the same thing in the T-38 right?"
Moose Driver "do they use the hood in the T-6? In the tweet, you had to wear a cover on your hemmett visor"
flyinnoose "Don't know about the T-6, but I hear wheels_up is a shit hot fighter pilot too. He knows all the cool info about any airplane you can think of"
wheels_up Awwwwwwwww........shux
treytaylor yall take care.
flyinnoose See ya!
wheels_up see ya Trey
eagle23 "Alright, I'm back."
eagle23 "Goodluck getting your slot, Trey."
flyinnoose Everyone - please welcome another ENJJPT IP: wheels_up.
He is a super cool techno-geeky guy that hada lot of civilian time
before the Air Force. (Just kidding about the techno part)
wheels_up Kinda dead in here fella's
eagle23 Kinda is
flyinnoose
wheels_up Thanks noose
eagle23 "Wheels, still going to be at Sheppard in Jul 07?"
wheels_up "lol, probablly"
flyinnoose No problem FFG
eagle23 37 or 38?
wheels_up "well, ill give ya a hint"
wheels_up "its long, sweet, and has supersonic afterburners"
raptor22 you fly a MWS yet wheels?
eagle23 LOL
eagle23 "I'll see you in Jul, then."
eagle23 brb
wheels_up rog
wheels_up "naw, no MWS for me"
wheels_up what about you?
raptor22 lol no... senior at the academy right now
flyinnoose WANTSCHECK has been infiltrated by the FAIP Mafia!
wheels_up ahh
raptor22 i'll be joining you guys in 08 though
wheels_up "well, good luck dude, enjjpt for you eh?"
Moose Driver
no kidding...none of these guys have pounded sand yet or never had to
walk a quarter mile in fiip flops just to take a dump or take a shower
raptor22 yep... 21 Jul 08
Moose Driver and eat w/ plastic silverware for 2 months straight
wheels_up "ha ha, good stuff Moose"
raptor22 so here's a deep meaningful question.... when do they let you start putting the crush in the back of your flight cap?
flyinnoose "No doubt, but if given the chance I would be the first to volunteer for a strafe run instead of cloverleafs and rejoins!"
wheels_up thats probablly after you get the girl and save the day
wheels_up "no, kidding dude, its kinda accepted that you do that after Mission Qual in your jet"
flyinnoose I believe it is once Mission Qualified
flyinnoose But Wheels does it know anyway
raptor22 is that after FTU and after getting checked out in your operational squad?
wheels_up affirm
flyinnoose YEPPER
Moose Driver "we don't do the crush obviously in our community, but some guys don't get the leather jackets until MQ"
wheels_up "well, the crush is fine and dandy brotha, but if you dont have the hands to back it, whats the point.....really?"
raptor22 haha... i do it now... but nobody knows the difference here
flyinnoose Moose - can you give us some poop on the 17 - we see them all the time on low-levels
wheels_up only when the TCAS goes off though[Emotion=emwink.gif]
raptor22 I can hold my own.
raptor22 LOL
Moose Driver "I see you guys also, sometimes you split my airdrop formation and scare the crap out of us"
wheels_up "yeah dude, sorry about that, life is hard at 360kts with the SA of a tadpole"
wheels_up just ask the studs
flyinnoose Just seeing if you are paying attention! I was flying over Altus the other day and got a Tally from 30 miles out
Moose Driver
that's why we stopped going north of I-40 on one of our low
levels...we're only doing 300-330 kts at 300' so you guys smoke by us
prety fast
flyinnoose Moose - do you fly out of Altus?
Moose Driver
I left that hole about a month ago. I'm in the reserves now at Dover.
We don't have any jets at Dover yet so I'm doing my flying at
Chucktown. I just got back from a pm local mission w/ some AR and
other junk..
wheels_up "Hmm, I have a friend you might know"
Moose Driver who dat?
wheels_up but i dont wanna drop her name on the web
flyinnoose
you might know a girl that wheels and I went to OTS with. She is
supposed to go to the C-17 since the C-5 is being phased out at Dover
right?
wheels_up but its kinda like a vaccum cleaner
wheels_up brand
flyinnoose her last name
Moose Driver Dover is keeping one active and one reserve C-5 squadron and one active one reserve C-17 squadron
flyinnoose but it has changed since she got married
flyinnoose gotcha
flyinnoose Her last name is now the second part of the underwear brand Calvin......
Moose Driver I've only met a couple of the gals in the squadron. I'm still relatively new and am still learning names
wheels_up "yeah, know any female LT's out there?"
Moose Driver one w/ the first name Jill
wheels_up "brunette, bout 5'5"""
wheels_up no no
wheels_up named after the ex princess of wales
wheels_up first name that is
flyinnoose ryno - WTF - you made it!
Moose Driver "slow down the conversations now, we got a herc driver here"
flyinnoose "Thunderbirds - brakes ,ready"
flyinnoose NOW
wheels_up stand-by the boards.......boards
eagle23 Man....it's an IP and fully winged crowd in here...
ryno Good play there DFC-17 Driver
ryno 
eagle23 Besides this guy
eagle23 <----------------
eagle23 LOL
ryno nice to see it wasn't a total bust this time - did I miss anything cool?
Moose Driver I think we got a firstie from the zoo here also
raptor22 I am like the only dude without pilot wings... damn.
ryno ha ha
eagle23
raptor22 i need to work on that
Moose Driver "hey, but you got prop and wings....(I'm class of 96)"
wheels_up "yeah man, piece of cake though"
eagle23 "Oh nm, Rap is still here. Rap, it's you and me who still need to earn them. Haha."
wheels_up i hear they give them away these days
Moose Driver CS-15 all 4 years
flyinnoose "ryno - have been on the trot since 800 - we got side tracked a bit, but I saw a lot of names I have never seen before"
raptor22 i'm taking donations then
Moose Driver do they even wash people out of upt these days?
ryno
if that Continental pilot's landing is any indication - there
should be a job opening for you soon enough over there Raptor
ryno Dude clanged it in
eagle23 "Hey, ryno."
raptor22 that's cool Moose... i'm in 29
wheels_up only the ones who.......ahem.......really deserve it
flyinnoose I am ready to Palace Chase
ryno Rock on Noose - you packing the house huh?
flyinnoose Damn I need a wizzo to type for me
ryno you still overseas Moose?
wheels_up 2
ryno typing from an elegant coffee shop in Spain?
flyinnoose Word
eagle23 "ryno, question about the page I'm going to make...."
ryno shoot
Moose Driver
"2.5 GPA, 2.4 MPA and I got to fly C-21s in Stuttgart, Germany and then
to the C-17. I didn't know I was getting a pilot slot until March of
firstie year. If I knew as early as you guys did, I would have had a
lot more fun my last year there"
flyinnoose Yeah we are moving next week
eagle23 Could I do it via HTML and have a different format than the Wantscheck page? Just so it looks differerent. BRB....
Moose Driver grades don't mean jack once you get to UPT. It's what you do in the air
flyinnoose DING DING!
raptor22 "yeah now that i got my pilot slot and ENJJPT, there's not much to motivate me anymore"
wheels_up I like this guy....
wheels_up tell him what he's won!
ryno
"yeah man you sure can - you'll see you have a ""Text/HTML"" module
in there so you can just make it in whatever program you want...then
copy and paste the HTML into the module and it'll show up like that"
Moose Driver what should motivate you is to not do anything stupid or at least don't get caught!
ryno ha ha
Moose Driver and don't rape anyone
ryno ain't that the truth
ryno don't let us read about you in the AF Times
raptor22 indeed
Moose Driver I know...bad joke
flyinnoose No drinky and drivy either
raptor22 still trying to be a DG i guess
wheels_up jeez
wheels_up i try and try and try
flyinnoose The only thing that DG means is Dun Graduated
ryno "I havne't checked the forum yet...anybody responded to T6Ds ""troll"" thread?"
Moose Driver sorry to hear about the enjpt stud who got himself killed. Heard he was DUI...true or are you allowed to talk about it?
raptor22 "yea doesn't mean anything, but kind of a personal goal"
Moose Driver 05 grad I heard
flyinnoose Yeah -
wheels_up "dudes, lets let hte brotha rest"
ryno uh oh
Moose Driver DG helps if you are career minded and want to be a commander one day
ryno sounds like I need to check out the forum..brb
flyinnoose "probably shouldn't talk about it, but I imagine you'll read about it is AF times"
wheels_up "hmm, commander eh?"
wheels_up i hear they get to wear a cool hat
raptor22 i suppose... i really don't like school that much though... never had any interest in grad school.. just want to fly
wheels_up Twoooop!
wheels_up good on ya brother!
ryno so what's up man?
ryno you in Spain still?
raptor22
Moose Driver "but, by no means does that mean you shouldn't shoot for DG. It's better to get it and and have options."
raptor22 i figure... at this point it's just a matter of maintenance
flyinnoose Yeah - I hear Continental is hiring
ryno h aha
ryno ok I don't know how to use these forums
ryno is everyone else seeing this?
flyinnoose yep
wheels_up nope
ryno excellent
Moose Driver
I haven't left yet...supposed to be in place on 1 Dec. I'll jump a
flight next week to get out there. I'm trying to get out of it,
because the squadron found some money to put me on orders for a year.
We had a volunteer step up to take my place (single guy). WE're just
waiting on final word if he gets approval or not
flyinnoose bottom left change who you are talking to
raptor22 lol
Moose Driver anyone see this?
ryno ah....there we have it
flyinnoose yep all of it
ryno right on
Moose Driver don't think it is working..
flyinnoose Wheels - what time is report tomorrow
Moose Driver NY Giants are getting their butts kicked
wheels_up 0830
ryno
I saw that post to me but I was thinking if you IMed it TO someone
then it was private and didn't clutter up the rest of the chat
flyinnoose thx
ryno I'll screw around with it later
ryno "so have you guys already covered the ""scandal"" at Sheppard?"
Moose Driver ok
wheels_up nope
wheels_up and nope
flyinnoose cricket.....cricket
ryno guess that answers that
ryno I can't get this to stop aiming at MD
raptor22 Yeah the zoo has plenty of scandals to cover you guys. We take all the attention.
flyinnoose we were advised not to talk about that in public
ryno figures
wheels_up be advised
flyinnoose But it is amazing how that spreads
wheels_up taint good
ryno yeah
ryno well the last one actually was pretty screwed up - wasn't just a case of simple gouge use or whatever (Columbus)
wheels_up yup
Moose Driver Vance AFB had some gross buffoonery occur in their squadron about a year ago
ryno dudes get the boot?
wheels_up "big picture, you cant let that kinda stuff slide"
raptor22 cheating?
eagle23 I have a good friend who is an IP at Vance.
Moose Driver
"a reserve T-1 IP on a stud cross country decided to land in C springs,
the student got out, and the IP's buddy, who happened to be an FAA
examiner jumped on the jet. That didn't go over too well."
wheels_up "ehh, if you are referencing the Columbus incident"
wheels_up yes
ryno "I was a big ""error on the side of caution"" guy when it came to wings"
eagle23 Sorry for the lack of talk on my part. I have company over.
eagle23
ryno ouch to the FAA guest ride
ryno so wheels what is your story? Sheppard guy?
ryno can you send private chat in this thing so it doesn't monopolize it all?
wheels_up "yeah, I teach new dudes to ride the rocket (STS)"
Moose Driver
I was hanging out with the T-1 sq/cc when it happened. He space A'd w/
his family on a jet I took to Seattle for a JAATT. He wasn't too happy
when he got the message on his blackberry
wheels_up what about you man?
ryno excellent - this place is turning much too fighter-centric
ryno pretty soon chicks will be coming here to hook up
ryno and make fun of heavy drivers like moosedriver
flyinnoose SWEET - Wheels needs some poon
wheels_up jigga wha???
raptor22 i hope ya'll have this much fun at work too
flyinnoose sorry bro I couldn't resist
flyinnoose You bet Raptor - more
wheels_up fun?
wheels_up this is the Air Force
wheels_up FUN is not part of the equation
ryno I'm just a lowly T-6 IP hopeful
wheels_up ok....well maybe a little
flyinnoose If they wanted you to have fun they would have issued it to you
Moose Driver AF life is great for the most part until you have to prepare for an ORI...
ryno oh man...you ain't lying
flyinnoose Tell me about it we just went through one
wheels_up Herk bubba?
raptor22 which is why fighter pilots need a bar in every squadron
ryno I fly Herks
Moose Driver you know Dave XXXXX?
ryno now I'm a pure pacifist
wheels_up outstanding aircraft brotha
wheels_up im a little jealous
ryno yeah I know Dave...great guy
ryno he's over there again to be with his woman
Moose Driver flew w/ him in stuttgart....great dude
ryno and riding his mountain bike throughout the AOR
Moose Driver "called him ""killer"" because all he wants to do is kill Taliban"
ryno ha ha
wheels_up sounds like a good guy
wheels_up [Emotion=emwink.gif]
ryno He had a co on this last trip that was a lot like him - like Bill and Ted flying the aircraft
ryno Dude
ryno Yeah he's hoping to go back to your old life there MD
ryno like to see him pull that good deal TWICE
Moose Driver
I hauled 140K of howitzer shells into K2 a few years back that I am
sure brought the wrath of God on those bastards...I've brought a lot of
bombs and bullets in there but never hauled any out!
ryno that can't be storing rounds like at 5 star hotels is why
ryno ok I'll stop monopolizing the conversation - I was just glad people we're here when I got in
Moose Driver
"Ask him about our trip to Italy. WE got pretty wasted in Verano,
Italy and tried to climb up the coliseum at 2 in the morning. I""m
glad we didn't get arrested. We ended up in some Cuban bar smoking
cuban cigars"
ryno very nice
flyinnoose Gents - I am going to pull cHocks. Wheels see you in the morning. say hi to Candice for me!
ryno pre 911?
ryno Noose thanks for the work man
Moose Driver back in 2000
flyinnoose No problem
ryno You da heat
wheels_up "Sure, you want me to tell her you'll be by later?"
Moose Driver fly safe noose
ryno yeah the good ole days
flyinnoose my pleasure
flyinnoose u2 Moose
raptor22 thanks noose for hangin around... good info and hopefully i'll see ya when i show up in a year or so
flyinnoose sounds great
flyinnoose g-night gents
ryno later G
raptor22 Wheels what're you gonna fly after Sheppard?
wheels_up Whatever i get issued
Moose Driver "raptor, you a melvin?"
wheels_up but hopefully hogs
raptor22 melvin?
Moose Driver that's the term that was used to refer to the soaring IPs. I have no idea what the origination of it is.
raptor22 i thought so... merlin drivers
raptor22 probably got combined into melvin somehow... never heard that before though
raptor22 but no i'm not... really wish i had though... got a friend who just won the national aerobatic competition in soaring
wheels_up that glider gig has gotta be fun
Moose Driver
"when I was there, most of the pq soaring IPs got enjpt...I was just
happy to get a pilot slot. Our class only had about 300 pilot slots"
raptor22 "you know, i really thought it'd be boring..."
Moose Driver I had no idea what I was doing when I solo'd that thing
raptor22 "by the time i took soaring and found out it was actually a lot of fun, it was too late to upgrade"
Moose Driver had no idea what I was doing when I solo'd the T-3 and the Tweet...took me a while to catch up
wheels_up "oh well, come burn some JP-8 and youll get over it"
raptor22 yep that works for me
raptor22 got a Strike Eagle BFM ride this summer... that was quite the ride
Moose Driver
"I burned 85,000 lbs of gas on my flight tonight....took 10,000 on my
AR plug....and got paid to do it...you're going to love it Raptor"
Moose Driver eagle/wheels...are both you guys FAIPs
ryno radio check
wheels_up "85k well, i am"
wheels_up loud and clear how me?
Moose Driver 5 by 5 ryno
raptor22 Eagle's a ROTC dude
raptor22 both of us heading to ENJJPT though
ryno thing said it lost connection and I had to hit the connect button to get back on - this happen a lot to ya'll?
Moose Driver has anyone told you that you should study anything before you show up to upt?
wheels_up not me ryno
raptor22 i've heard both... i'm planning on using my year of casual well though
ryno cool
Moose Driver
"if they do, don't worry about it...there is plenty of time built into
the schedule (and if you utilize it correctly) to study and learn the
stuff. enjoy your free time."
raptor22 "if Fighter Ops comes out in time, i'm really hoping that'll be a good study tool"
wheels_up "yeah, but honestly, youll see raptor"
Moose Driver
"If I were to do it over again, I would have dropped some coin into
some private flying. I had almost 2 years between when I finished
flying the T-3 (IFT for you newbies) and when I started flying the
tweet. I had no idea what a traffic pattern was"
wheels_up there is no way to prepare
ryno yeah I'm interested to see what they come up with too. Cool website.
wheels_up just come with a good attitude
raptor22 "that's the biggest thing, for sure"
wheels_up we will show you the rest
raptor22 my dad and granddad were both fighter pilots... and they've said the same thing
ryno
"you should go there with the attitude of ""I don't need you - I
can already do this"" if you want to get a fighter slot. They like
that."
wheels_up smart men
ryno
wheels_up umm
wheels_up "well, thats close"
Moose Driver and buy a license plate with pilot wings on them and put them on the front of your car...
wheels_up you'll see
ryno yeah totally
eagle23 "Gents, I'm going to head out."
ryno make sure you tell them about your civilian ratings
wheels_up cheers
ryno later Eagle
Moose Driver "ryno,
did you hear about the guy at Laughlin several years ago who got busted
while driving his corvette 145 MPH w/ his helmet, flight suit, and
nomex gloves on?"
ryno ha ha ha
ryno no
eagle23 Adios. No need to keep my name in here if I'm busy being an entertainer.
eagle23 Goodnight.
ryno ?
raptor22
"well basically, i want to know as much as i can, but come in with
a good attitude, and get them to make me the best pilot i can be"
wheels_up see ya dude
Moose Driver
"he had the oxygen hose taped to his air vent. When the cop nailed
him, he said that he wanted to know what it felt like. he ended up
washing out"
ryno oh my lord - nuts
raptor22 ridiculous
eagle23 Adios.
wheels_up "ha ha! Ahh, the SNAP culture"
wheels_up it keeps getting better
ryno there were some studs in my time that got drunk and drove through the base fence on graduation night at Corpus
raptor22 great way to shorten the career
ryno I guess they weren't studs att - but it was a short lived winged tour
Moose Driver
those guys partied hard at Corpus. I had some buddies who rented a
sweet house on the other side of the bridge. a lot of guys lived out
that way
wheels_up Corpus sounds like a good time
ryno
I've heard of a guy at XL that took a picture of him naked in the
T-38 and had it up on a website and got dewinged years after (could be
rumor though - nothing confirmed)
Moose Driver it ain't no wichita falls though...heh heh
ryno "yeah on the island - sweet town for ""UPT"""
wheels_up "well, i was referring to the Navy thing too"
ryno Sheppard isn't bad at all compared to Del Rio. Least they got a Grahams Central Station
wheels_up that sounds pretty laid back
wheels_up "DUDE, Grahams closed!"
ryno man that sucks
raptor22 "Well gents, I gotta get some sleep... comin off an 18 hour day"
wheels_up only if youre an E-1
wheels_up lol
Moose Driver I had more fun in Del Rio then I did in Altus
ryno ha ha
wheels_up "aight Raptor, keep the faith"
ryno wish I would have had your secret
ryno later Raptor
Moose Driver 18 hours...that's nothing....crew duty day in AMC is 26 hours baby
raptor22 thanks for all the info... i'm sure i'll see you in the air one day
Moose Driver later rap
ryno what?
raptor22 you guys are hardcore
Moose Driver FDP
raptor22 later guys
Moose Driver 24+45 Crew duty day
ryno is that with a basic crew or augemented?
Moose Driver augmented
ryno got ya
wheels_up Jeez
Moose Driver 18 hour FDP while basic
ryno same here
wheels_up these numbers make no sense to me
Moose Driver but we have beds to sleep in and we can stand up to take a piss
ryno cuz you can't fly that long man
ryno not enough gas
wheels_up hey hey hey
ryno ha ha
Moose Driver basically what that means is from show time to last landing of the day is that many hours
wheels_up i can get a 1.6 out of the ole rocket
ryno it's not how long you fly it's how cool you look doing it
wheels_up "yeah, thats a good point"
Moose Driver it allows us to fly from Germany to 2 stops in afghanstan with an AR and a gas stop on the ground on the way back to germany
wheels_up "but still, the long hop thing must be pretty darned cool"
ryno you guys do that much? I guess if you fly augmented you do then huh?
Moose Driver I don't look cool when my seat is reclined back and I'm snoring away
ryno with a box lunch spilled on your pubs
Moose Driver days are shorter when flying out of turkey and qatar
ryno or you don't do pubs - all in the computer
Moose Driver we have 110Volt outlets in the jet so we watch movies on the laptop a lot
wheels_up thats outstanding
ryno yeah I love riding in the back being able to plug in
Moose Driver carry paper pubs in the jet. each squadron maintains paper pubs that we sign out to go fly
ryno nice
ryno we've pretty much gone to that now too - Epubs on the thumb drive
Moose Driver
I flew a long leg over the pacific and watched 2 lord of the rings
movies back to back and still had a long flight after that...
wheels_up thats a killer!
wheels_up you gotta go for all 3
Moose Driver
"it was a keeper jet (wheels, that means we flew the same jet from home
station all the way back home) and we brought a regular coffee pot and
microwave on that trip."
ryno you say you want Hogs Wheels?
wheels_up "yep, i have a special place in the ole heart for that bird"
ryno hell yeah
Moose Driver i'm going to sign off shortly...
ryno good man - great aircraft
Moose Driver starting to get sleepy...
ryno right on man
ryno thanks for showing up and making this thing work
wheels_up "well, so is the herk brotha"
wheels_up "yeah moose, good talkin with ya"
ryno yeah I dig it. But I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd sure love to give the Hawg a spin
Moose Driver "ryno, I'll shoot you a note when I hear about Rota."
Moose Driver "wheels, good luck"
ryno I was just in Battle Creek two days ago with the wife
Moose Driver gnite gents
ryno cool man - later bro
wheels_up nite
wheels_up you were at the BC eh?
ryno we did the parade of lights thing
wheels_up you see those dudes flying?
ryno just in town - didn't hook up with any of the drivers
ryno although one of their LtCols emailed us not too long ago and updated his page
ryno but I guess they're converting to heavies shortly
wheels_up "yeah, it would be sweet"
wheels_up no kidding?
wheels_up Battle Creek?
ryno yeah that's what the hotel dude said
wheels_up woah
wheels_up i got a buddy who just left here to fly for em
ryno I could check the page on WantsCheck to see what they put in there but I think they're getting BRACed
wheels_up interesting......oh well
ryno so you fly with Noose?
wheels_up "wings are wings, and this is a great job. I dont care what the FNG's say"
wheels_up "yeah, me and Noose went to OTS together"
wheels_up good friends
ryno kick ass
ryno thanks for making this chat thing a success (apparently)
wheels_up "no worries, credit noose"
wheels_up i just provided mutual support
ryno right on - good wingman
wheels_up "yeah, im bingo too"
wheels_up alright ryno
wheels_up see ya around
ryno later Wheels
wheels_up later
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