First of all let me say I am super stoked and appreciative of picking up an ENJJPT slot and by no means am getting on here to gloat. There are obviously a few people on here who by the numbers look like they should have been picked up and I feel for you guys. Hopefully someone decides they don't want to have to fly for ACC and gives up there slot for one of you all...

Anyway, now that it is official and those of us that were lucky enough to get picked up know we are going to Sheppard I was wondering if anyone can explain the pipeline. I've heard (and granted I don't know crap yet) that ENJJPT selects don't have as long of a casual assignment as SUPT selects since the program is more selective and less backed up. I was wondering what the typical ENJJPT pipeline is as far as entering active duty (EAD), casual, ASBC and IFS compared to the pipeline of a SUPT select.

Talked to the Col about the possibility of being my Det's Ad Lt if the ENJJPT pipeline is significantly shorter than the SUPT pipeline. I got some work I want to do on our Alumni program, lack of a recruiting program and it would be fun to get to stay around all the coeds and continue to party with Lt pay!...

Any wisdom is appreciated!

Thanks!  I posed this same question on that shitty other website and got my A$$ ripped in public but got some good PMs out of the deal.  Sounds like for now it is a little less backed up and casual is closer to 6-9 months as opposed to 9-12.  All in all though, it seems random and as always up to the needs of the AF so I'm just gonna focus on graduating and getting as much safe partying out of my last 8 months of college as possible!  If anyone has any other insight though, feel free to let us know...

Trobi there is a sheet you will see when you put yourself in for categorization - It will have a lot of info on it about how you must understand if selected for aviator you owe 10 years after training, 8 years if you get Nav, 6 for ABM etc.

There will also be a section on the same sheet asking whether you would like to be considered for ENJJPT. It will ask you to make sure you understand you will have to track fighter/bomber track (ie T-38s) and that you understand if you wash out you will not get to enter regular SUPT. (This always struck me as funny when cadets who openly talk about wanting fighters or bombers site this as their reason for not checking ENJJPT...Unless someone knows different, I don't think you can wash out of regular SUPT and get a second shot either.)

It will also ask you if you would like to be considered for Strike Nav or what they now call Combat Systems Officer.

So just pay attention to detail when you get that sheet. I know at some Dets the PAS makes anyone wanting any of the special programs write a memo for him/her on why they want it and/or why they would be a good candidate. We didn't have to do that but you might and hopefully they will let you know soon enough though you could alwasy schedule a "career goals" meeting with your COC or something like that.

Other than that focus on the factors of your OOM that both remain and that you can control - basically your PCSM by getting some flying hours or retaking it if you need to raise it. Hope that helps.

Matt,

Your question is more than understandable.  The problem is that most people get confused as to how you are actually selected for your pilot slot.  Your pilot slot is 100% based on your Order of Merit (OM) score.  The PCSM is actually only PART of the overall OM score, and it only accounts for 15% of it.  This explains why some people can kill the PCSM and still not get selected.  It normally means they lack in other areas.  The break down is 50% Commander's Ranking, 15% PCSM, 15% GPA, 10% PFT Score, and 10% Field Training Ranking.  Once you get all of these numbers, you will get a score out of 100 - this is your OM.  Essentially, when it comes time to select pilot candidates, they just rack and stack everyone based on this score, and they have a cut line based on how many pilots they need that year.  If you're above the line, you make it.  If not, you get CSO, ABM, or don't get anything at all.

From everything I've gathered, the OM cut for pilot normally falls somewhere in the 70s.  Anything in the 80s is very competitive.  As far as ENJJPT goes, the cut off is normally around the high 80s or low 90s.  I had a little over 91 and my roommate had around a 93 and we were both selected.  So if you're young in the program, you need to play around with the OM and see what you can improve on.  For example, if you have a tough major and you know that your GPA will struggle, focus on the PFT, FT, and PCSM scores to boost yourself up.  Flight hours are the best way to boost your PCSM if you've already taken the AFOQT and the TBAS.  Obviously, the best thing you can do is get a good commander's ranking, seeing as this is HALF of your score.  If you get 1st in your class, you only 20-30 more points to be competitve for a pilot slot.

I hope this helps!

Matt,

08Jay and Mafia are both friends of mine and we would all love to help you (or anyone else on here) in anyway that we can.  Keep dropping questions in these forums where they apply as you think of them.  We'll keep our eye out and be there with answers, or at least point you in the right direction.  Your drive already has you in the right direction.  If your heart is in the right place, everything else will follow.  Keep it up.