A10Hog
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| 18 May 2008 10:45 PM |
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Good evening all,
I had a question for the individuals who are currently reservists or guard members. I have been sponsored by a unit and will need a flight physical at brooks afb. Will this trip to San Antonio be out of my own pocket? Does the sponsoring unit pay for this? Would I have to be on military status? Can I go as a civilian? Any help will be appreciated. thanks.
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Velosprints
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| 19 May 2008 05:34 AM |
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Although I haven't yet gone to Brooks, I would be willing to bet that your sponsoring unit will send you on military status. |
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B52tiger
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| 19 May 2008 07:48 AM |
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Your unit will take care of everything they are suppose to anyway! They will set up your travel arrangements everything. All you need to do is show up. |
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A10Hog
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| 19 May 2008 09:13 PM |
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The MPF told me all I needed was a commissioning physical. After OTS, the sponsoring unit will send me to Brooks. Does this sound right? |
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Velosprints
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| 20 May 2008 05:38 AM |
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Sounds about right to me, but I don't understand why your unit won't administer an FC1 for you. All I had to do was go in on a drill weekend and ask. I got everything but my chest X-Ray taken care of. After that drill, in order to get the chest x-ray, my flight chief was kind enough to put me on one day of orders to send me to a nearby hospital and get my chest zapped. It might be worth poking around a bit more at your medical squadron to see if your original info was correct. |
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A10Hog
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| 21 May 2008 12:28 AM |
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Velosprints,
You were currently a enlisted reservist and your unit scheduled your an FC1 at your base? I was told Brooks AFB was the only place you can get an FC1 that was approved by the AFRC board. Am I wrong?
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Velosprints
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| 21 May 2008 05:24 AM |
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Yes, that is incorrect. I am in the guard now, and I had everything done at my medical group. I was even told that I didn't need to attend Brooks for MFS because I had the "new" FC1 and it had a stamp saying that it was approved by AETC. I'm taking that information with a grain of salt though, because not all of the information that I have been getting has been entirely accurate. The stamp on my physical even says that I still needed to go to Brooks.
But one thing I do know, you CAN get an FC1 at your base, because I did. Now whether or not you have qualified people to administer the exam, I don't know. |
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B52tiger
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| 21 May 2008 07:50 AM |
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A10hog-- I got my FC1 back in Feb, and was told the same thing. As I understand it everyone that has to get an FC1 has to go to brooks for their initial physical. After that you can get them done where ever you are stationed. I wouldnt worry much about it, it's a very laid back experience and if you dont have any health issues then dont worry!  |
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bravodelta79
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| 21 May 2008 11:38 AM |
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ONe of the Guard recruiters I've talked to said that ALL of them are done at Brooks now because before they were getting candidates that were OK'ed by a unit physician and then they'd get to Brooks and wouldn't pass something. He made it sound like they were just trying to make sure everyone got the same physical and wouldn't pass in one place and fail at Brooks. YMMV
As for doing MEPS, going to OTS and then to Brooks... what's up with that? Why would they send you do 12-13 weeks of OTS and then check to see if you're fit to fly? If you don't make it and get DQ'd, did you just waste 12-13 weeks of your life and the AF's money? That seems like a very odd way of doing things.
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Velosprints
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| 21 May 2008 02:37 PM |
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ONe of the Guard recruiters I've talked to said that ALL of them are done at Brooks now because before they were getting candidates that were OK'ed by a unit physician and then they'd get to Brooks and wouldn't pass something. He made it sound like they were just trying to make sure everyone got the same physical and wouldn't pass in one place and fail at Brooks. Bravo brings up a good point. I think that I had my FC1 performed BEFORE it was a requirment to attend Brooks. I took the physical, then it was sent off to AETC to be approved. That took about 3 months, but I finally got it back with an approved stamp on it. Though it did say that I still needed to successfully complete MFS, thats not the same as retaking the FC1. (At least I don't think it is) I don't know if your recruiters are the same as mine, but I wouldn't take their word as the end-all say-all. I have found that my recruiter doesn't really know much about the pilot process and seems to be consistently giving me wrong information. After all, he is an OFFICER recruiter, and he doesn't deal specifically with pilot selects. |
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| 23 May 2008 09:26 PM |
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My info is dated... but, I didn't go to MEPS until after I was selected and then enlisted (it was my enlistment physical). Later on I did the FC-1 at my unit and then after AMS I went to Brooks for MFS. Some dudes go to MFS before AMS -- I would suggest this as you wouldn't want to put up with AMS if you aren't medically qualified to go to UPT. That would suck -- it happened to a bro of mine. |
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| 23 May 2008 09:51 PM |
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Quatro -- Your last statement is why I can't comprehend why the AF/ANG would even do it AMS/OTS and then Brooks. I'm certain it costs more to send someone through 6 or 12 weeks of office school than it does to run two or three days of medical tests. In these days of financial crack downs, why wouldn't they send everyone to Brooks first? Cutting costs... http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2...s_030508w/ |
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| 26 May 2008 02:56 PM |
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Sometimes that's just how it works out. In most cases, you'll go to Brooks first. If you don't pass Brooks, a lot of times you can keep your commission and still do something else at the Guard unit, so it's not a complete waste of money.
Sending somebody through AMS only to wash out of MFS is a drop in the bucket compared to losing a B-2. |
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| 26 May 2008 07:27 PM |
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Good point, quatro. With all the aircraft mishaps going on lately, having someone go through 12 weeks of school and then getting dumped isn't much financially to the AF.
How many of you guys made it to Brooks before you went to OTS? I'm going to be AFRC, so that might make a difference. Do you think if I plead my case to the officer recruiter I'm dealing with out of Scott AFB, he will try to get me to Brooks before OTS? I had LASIK done over 5 years ago with (what I think) are great results. That is the only thing I could think of they could tag me on (barring an unknown heart problem or similar).
Any experience is appreciated. |
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JSpoon
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| 26 May 2008 09:42 PM |
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BD,
You'll have to get a wavier but you shouldn't have any problems. You might have to track done some paperwork, but that's it.
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JollyGreenAirman
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| 01 Jun 2008 05:43 PM |
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On the Guard side of the house, the official memo stated that the change took place because several candidates were being DQ'd at Brooks (MFS) too close to their UPT start dates. As a result, the Guard lost the slot all together. The new process involves submitting a Commissioning Physical with your package to NGB and being sent to Brooks(for both the FC1 and MFS) after being appointed. What is unclear to me is if 'after being appointed' means pre or post AMS. Can anyone who has gone through the new process shed some light on the situation? As A10-Hog mentioned, it probably means post AMS. I had my Commissioning physical during our April UTA and will be sending my package to NGB shortly. Once I get a more definitive answer, I'll let you all know. |
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bravodelta79
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| 02 Jun 2008 10:02 AM |
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From what I hear, it's more of a timing thing. I know a guy who just started AMS in mid-May who didn't get to Brooks before AMS. He's nearing the age limit like me and they just wanted to get him to AMS as soon as they could to get the process moving. |
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JollyGreenAirman
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| 02 Jun 2008 10:40 AM |
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Thanks for the info. By Brooks do you mean just MFS or did he go to AMS even before having his FC1? |
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bravodelta79
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| 02 Jun 2008 12:57 PM |
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He only had the small physical done at his unit. He did NOT go to the full FC1 at Brooks before leaving for AMS.
However, I just talked to the recruiter that's putting together my packet for the board this fall and he said he will wait to get MEPS results and then schedule up Brooks/FC1 before OTS. He doesn't send people to OTS before going to Brooks for exactly the reason I stated before.
HUGE amount of stress off my shoulders. |
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