Matthew Garris
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| 15 Apr 2007 11:09 AM |
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Regarding the Block Counting section of the AFOQT, do you count blocks that are diagonal to the designated block?? It is easier to explain my question with an example: Look at the telephone key pad. If you were asked how many keys touch the "1" key, would the correct answer be "two" (keys 4 and 2) or would it be "three" (keys 4,5 and 2 as key 5 is diagonal and touching)??? The ARCO book seems to count the diagonals, but most of the other books do not. Does anyone know for sure??
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Sho'Nuff
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| 15 Apr 2007 11:48 AM |
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I'm thinking the diagonals don't count. To count it has to have a real surface flush against it. |
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Joel DeConcini
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| 16 Apr 2007 12:38 AM |
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That is a great question. I had the same question when I took the AFOQT a year ago. I hadn't found out the answer to that question before I sat down to take the test. I was hoping that the directions on the test would make it clear--especially in light of the fact that the two major study aids didn't seem to know the answer. But, alas, the directions were of no help either. I was hoping that it wouldn't come up (i.e., that no question had 'right' answers for both the inclusion of the diagonals and an answer if you didn't include them), but there were at least two questions that could have gone either way. If my memory serves me correctly, I picked the lame strategy of splitting the difference. For one question I answered as if you needed to include the diagonals, for the other question, I excluded the diagonals. I'm not sure that's the best strategy, though.  If I had to guess, I would say that, like T6Driver said, you don't count the diagonals. If you find out the answer, though, add a post here so that hopefully the question gets answered once and for all. Good luck on the test! Do lots of practice questions, and like preparing for a marathon, increase the number of questions you do until the day of the test. But make sure to avoid doing any questions for the entire day before the test. If the test is on Saturday, finish your last practice questions on Thursday night. Good luck. |
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Matthew Garris
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| 16 Apr 2007 02:02 AM |
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Thanks for the help guys. I will keep looking. I would think the MPF that administers the test should know the answer... |
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andrew fuller
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| 26 Apr 2007 03:12 AM |
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To go along with this question, i have one. On page 85 of the ARCO Flight apptitude test book, practice question #1 has 15 blocks, i count 14, but i guess we're to assume that there are 9 blocks on the base (3 rows of 3) and not 8 blocks? Do we assume there is a block hidden in the back there? I see it as 8 on the base, 5 on the middle and the top block, but the answer is 15.. any help?
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determined2fly
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| 02 May 2007 07:37 PM |
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I have the ARCO 5th Edition of "Military Flight Aptitude Tests"... and it states that you DO count the diagonals. So in your example, you would say the 1 key is touched by 3 keys (2,4,5). This is something that I had over looked (didn't read the directions) and only realized when grading my practice test and getting a bunch wrong.
That said... my ARCO study guide is old (5th E) and contains the sections that are now removed from the AFOQT... so they could have changed things. I'm taking the AFOQT this Friday, and you can bet this is something I will be asking the test administrator about. I'll post back again after the test and give a definitive answer. |
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andrew fuller
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| 04 May 2007 04:22 PM |
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Please do report back.. Im taking the test May19th and this would be good last minute stuff to brush up on.
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determined2fly
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| 05 May 2007 01:39 AM |
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I asked about the diagonals and the admin had no idea, which sucked. Since the arco guide said to count diagonals, I did. I got to the last group of blocks and came across one touching 8 other blocks including the diagonals... problem was, 8 wasn't an answer! Now I'm quite good at "seeing" these, and am positive the answer should have been 8 if diagonals were included.
I know this isn't the clear cut answer people are looking for, but if I was taking the afoqt again I would not count the diagonals.
Luckily there are only 2 or 3 that had any diagonals, so not doing it the right way won't kill your score... but I'm sure most of you are like me and want every point you can get. What really sucked about it was by the time I'd figured out that they weren't counted, I didn't have enough time to go back and recount the others. The rest of the test went really well though, so I'm not loosing any sleep over it... |
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andrew fuller
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| 11 May 2007 02:52 AM |
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How was the test overall? Did the ARCo books help out? I have the ARCo and Cliff notes guide to the AFOQT. Found them both good, but the Cliff notes books has more mistakes on the answers. How is the math? does it follow close to the practice problems? My test date is the 19th of May... nervous, but feeling good bout most sections, math is scaring me. AH!
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| 03 Aug 2009 08:07 PM |
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Ok, Barron's mech. & spac. specifically states do not count the touching edges. However the ARCO Military Flight Aptitude Test Prep counts corners. So which is the truth for the AFOQT? It is a large factor for pilot, so which is it? |
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| 04 Aug 2009 02:26 PM |
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Posted By determined2fly on 05 May 2007 01:39 AM
I asked about the diagonals and the admin had no idea, which sucked. Since the arco guide said to count diagonals, I did. I got to the last group of blocks and came across one touching 8 other blocks including the diagonals... problem was, 8 wasn't an answer! Now I'm quite good at "seeing" these, and am positive the answer should have been 8 if diagonals were included.
I know this isn't the clear cut answer people are looking for, but if I was taking the afoqt again I would not count the diagonals.
Luckily there are only 2 or 3 that had any diagonals, so not doing it the right way won't kill your score... but I'm sure most of you are like me and want every point you can get. What really sucked about it was by the time I'd figured out that they weren't counted, I didn't have enough time to go back and recount the others. The rest of the test went really well though, so I'm not loosing any sleep over it...
Same thing happened to me, don't try to overthink it. I would not count them. Luckily the block counting does not contribute to the Pilot Score or any of the other most important composites...
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